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	<title>Comments on: Ben Sandrof</title>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://drinkboston.com/2009/06/26/ben-sandrof/comment-page-1/#comment-47543</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No more Ben at Drink??  I hope he is enjoying his time out from behind the bar.  He is the reason I love classic cocktails.  I went to Drink in June and a few short months later i own bottles of bitters, Chartreuse, absinthe, and rye and have a &quot;small&quot; cocktail habit.  I hope the Boston scene keeps growing and changing people into cocktail lovers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No more Ben at Drink??  I hope he is enjoying his time out from behind the bar.  He is the reason I love classic cocktails.  I went to Drink in June and a few short months later i own bottles of bitters, Chartreuse, absinthe, and rye and have a &#8220;small&#8221; cocktail habit.  I hope the Boston scene keeps growing and changing people into cocktail lovers.</p>
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		<title>By: ljclark</title>
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		<dc:creator>ljclark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drink is great bar, but also a bold experiment, as Eastern Standard was in 2005. It took ES a while to educate its clientele in the ways of the cocktail bar; once people &quot;got it,&quot; they embraced it. I know I can&#039;t sit and chat with the bartenders when I go in there an hour before a Sox game, but I know I can get a really good drink in a reasonable amount of time. Drink is a bit different, true -- more craft-y and intimate -- but weekends in popular bars are tough. I&#039;ve been in Pegu Club and the Flatiron Lounge in NYC on a Saturday night and seen the same crowds who don&#039;t quite get what&#039;s going on with the menu but wanted to check out that cool bar they heard about. These are the people that bartenders like Ben will convert to sophisticates -- to the benefit of us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drink is great bar, but also a bold experiment, as Eastern Standard was in 2005. It took ES a while to educate its clientele in the ways of the cocktail bar; once people &#8220;got it,&#8221; they embraced it. I know I can&#8217;t sit and chat with the bartenders when I go in there an hour before a Sox game, but I know I can get a really good drink in a reasonable amount of time. Drink is a bit different, true &#8212; more craft-y and intimate &#8212; but weekends in popular bars are tough. I&#8217;ve been in Pegu Club and the Flatiron Lounge in NYC on a Saturday night and seen the same crowds who don&#8217;t quite get what&#8217;s going on with the menu but wanted to check out that cool bar they heard about. These are the people that bartenders like Ben will convert to sophisticates &#8212; to the benefit of us all.</p>
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		<title>By: MC Slim JB</title>
		<link>http://drinkboston.com/2009/06/26/ben-sandrof/comment-page-1/#comment-38720</link>
		<dc:creator>MC Slim JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true that those frenzied periods are the worst possible time to go to Drink; I have not been back during peak weekend hours since what I now refer to as the Cucumber Vodka Martini Incident. And yet Ben and Co. were still managing to make me and my crew some fine cocktails. We felt well cared for; we just didn&#039;t take our usual five minutes to leisurely discuss options.

Clearly most of the crowd there in those super-busy windows does not understand what the place is about. But I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d instruct Drink in this economy to turn those folks away. We&#039;re not Manhattan, with the sheer numbers of connoisseur drinkers to support multiple craft bars with headcount limits. There&#039;s still plenty of Boston consumer evangelizing and educating on craft cocktails to do.

At their best, I&#039;d put what the bartenders in our elite establishments are doing up against the top tier nationwide (based on my experiences in NY, LA and SF; I haven&#039;t been to DC&#039;s finer places yet). But as everywhere, intelligent drinkers have to pick their spots: avoid Drink at peak weekend hours, Eastern Standard an hour before a game at Fenway, etc. This isn&#039;t that hard; I&#039;d estimate those crush periods represent maybe 10% of the time they&#039;re open. With any luck, enough folks here will catch on that our craft cocktail bars will have the luxury of turning people away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true that those frenzied periods are the worst possible time to go to Drink; I have not been back during peak weekend hours since what I now refer to as the Cucumber Vodka Martini Incident. And yet Ben and Co. were still managing to make me and my crew some fine cocktails. We felt well cared for; we just didn&#8217;t take our usual five minutes to leisurely discuss options.</p>
<p>Clearly most of the crowd there in those super-busy windows does not understand what the place is about. But I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d instruct Drink in this economy to turn those folks away. We&#8217;re not Manhattan, with the sheer numbers of connoisseur drinkers to support multiple craft bars with headcount limits. There&#8217;s still plenty of Boston consumer evangelizing and educating on craft cocktails to do.</p>
<p>At their best, I&#8217;d put what the bartenders in our elite establishments are doing up against the top tier nationwide (based on my experiences in NY, LA and SF; I haven&#8217;t been to DC&#8217;s finer places yet). But as everywhere, intelligent drinkers have to pick their spots: avoid Drink at peak weekend hours, Eastern Standard an hour before a game at Fenway, etc. This isn&#8217;t that hard; I&#8217;d estimate those crush periods represent maybe 10% of the time they&#8217;re open. With any luck, enough folks here will catch on that our craft cocktail bars will have the luxury of turning people away.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MC, your post is a good example as to why (though I would bet good money on that the powers that be would not allow it as it would detract from the overall plan) Drink, as the only example of such an establishment in the Boston area, should not get &quot;four deep.&quot;  

I hear the NYC institutions set limits, and I know the DC establishments certainly enforce such rules.  

This board and others holds Drink up to be the equal if not better than other institutions, but until I know that I cannot show up on a night that four deep is possible in a place where the idea is interaction with the bartender/mixologist, then I think Drink will never enter the top tier of national cocktail establishments.  

If &quot;four deep&quot; is even possible, how can it compete with a similar establishment in another city where they make their own bitters; craft original drinks along the lines of traditional recipes; but allow only a crowd which permits easy communication with those behind the bar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MC, your post is a good example as to why (though I would bet good money on that the powers that be would not allow it as it would detract from the overall plan) Drink, as the only example of such an establishment in the Boston area, should not get &#8220;four deep.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I hear the NYC institutions set limits, and I know the DC establishments certainly enforce such rules.  </p>
<p>This board and others holds Drink up to be the equal if not better than other institutions, but until I know that I cannot show up on a night that four deep is possible in a place where the idea is interaction with the bartender/mixologist, then I think Drink will never enter the top tier of national cocktail establishments.  </p>
<p>If &#8220;four deep&#8221; is even possible, how can it compete with a similar establishment in another city where they make their own bitters; craft original drinks along the lines of traditional recipes; but allow only a crowd which permits easy communication with those behind the bar?</p>
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		<title>By: MC Slim JB</title>
		<link>http://drinkboston.com/2009/06/26/ben-sandrof/comment-page-1/#comment-38583</link>
		<dc:creator>MC Slim JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another person of quality deservedly recognized by this site. It is fun to sit in his section at Drink on a busy weekend night with the bar four deep, and watch him deal with numbnut orders for that cucumber vodka &quot;martini&quot; that is so awesome when they make it at The Living Room, or Champagne and Coke. He has a magical way of dissuading people from their horrible, horrible ideas. Excellent taste in music, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another person of quality deservedly recognized by this site. It is fun to sit in his section at Drink on a busy weekend night with the bar four deep, and watch him deal with numbnut orders for that cucumber vodka &#8220;martini&#8221; that is so awesome when they make it at The Living Room, or Champagne and Coke. He has a magical way of dissuading people from their horrible, horrible ideas. Excellent taste in music, too.</p>
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		<title>By: JAX</title>
		<link>http://drinkboston.com/2009/06/26/ben-sandrof/comment-page-1/#comment-38441</link>
		<dc:creator>JAX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love you man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love you man!</p>
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